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romney say, mr. president, you've been on an on poll i go tour, you don't know what you're doing in the middle east, you're waiving the work requirement for welfare. if he keeps going like that, the president is likely to lose his temper, isn't he? >> reporter: oh, i don't think so. look, the challenge facing president obama -- >> you don't? >> reporter: -- is the equivalent of a football team ahead trying to run out the fourth quarter. i think his challenge is to deflect, to respond to those with some element of humor, bemouss bemousseement. he'll cite fact-checkers and say independent analysts say your welfare charge is wrong, that sort of thing. i would expect him to be as much above it and not peevish, arrogant, not condescending as is possible to be. this is a president who doesn't make too many mistakes. >> karen, tonight's focus is domestic. >> yep. >> no bigger domestic issue than the economy, as we know. we'll have a rather open format. do you think we'll actually hear a specific from mr. ro
romney say, mr. president, you've been on an on poll i go tour, you don't know what you're doing in the middle east, you're waiving the work requirement for welfare. if he keeps going like that, the president is likely to lose his temper, isn't he? >> reporter: oh, i don't think so. look, the challenge facing president obama -- >> you don't? >> reporter: -- is the equivalent of a football team ahead trying to run out the fourth quarter. i think his challenge is to deflect, to...
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mr. romney did look a little frustrated a few times. i kind of liken him to a pit bull on a leash trying to get loose. i agree with him on values, whereas the democratic party, i don't agree with their value system at all. >> did you go into tonight's debate already deciding who you were going to vote for? >> i am decided as far as i am not going to vote democratic party, i know that. as far as an independent candidate or mitt romney, i am not sure yet. >> as far as tonight is concerned, watching mr. romney, did that change your opinion whatsoever? >> yes. i am not sure, there are things he is making points about it, i am not sure what he is actually saying. so i need to find out more about where hes headed before i can really make an informed decision. i do have a comment about the health care. this is for any party willing to listen, and that is, i believe that a good way to reduce the cost of health care in this country is fort somebody of government to regulate the billing practices of the health- care industry people. i think that'
mr. romney did look a little frustrated a few times. i kind of liken him to a pit bull on a leash trying to get loose. i agree with him on values, whereas the democratic party, i don't agree with their value system at all. >> did you go into tonight's debate already deciding who you were going to vote for? >> i am decided as far as i am not going to vote democratic party, i know that. as far as an independent candidate or mitt romney, i am not sure yet. >> as far as tonight is...
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as we mentioned the consensus is that mitt romney deteethed barack obama. and today mr. obama under his energy a bit. >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he has been saying for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> bill: joining us now from washington fox news analyst charles krauthammer. give me something new, charles, give me something you picked up during that debate. >> what i learned by watching it is that mitt romney doesn't seem like the kind of guy who kills the wives of laid off steal workers, which is another way of saying that negative campaigning. negative ads are double-edged. they have had a tremendous effect. including that really revolting add ad that was run against romney with a steel worker whose wife died of cancer looking into the camera blaming it essentially on romney and saying romney doesn't care about anybody. these things work. they do work. they are ve
as we mentioned the consensus is that mitt romney deteethed barack obama. and today mr. obama under his energy a bit. >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he has been saying for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> bill: joining us now from washington fox news analyst charles krauthammer....
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i will tell you surprise surprise i'm voting for mr. romney but i can't blame mr. obama for all of these problem. he has tried his best. i don't think there is much any republican could have done that would have been much different. there is just not a huge amount of economics knows about how to deal with a financial catastrophe like we had in 2008. >> shannon: if that is the case what is the case for electing mitt romney over president obama if you say that president obama has made a good effort and nobody could have done any better? >> the case is i think mitt romney is a little more of a patriot and will handle foreign affairs and defense much better and i and i will say something hardly anybody says on the air any more. i'm very much prolife and i will always take the prolife candidate. >> shannon: foreign policy. how do you think a president romney would be different, better than president obama? >> i think after a clear terrorist al-qaeda inspired attack on the u.s. consulate that killed a u.s. ambassador he would not blame a filmmaker in cerritos, california
i will tell you surprise surprise i'm voting for mr. romney but i can't blame mr. obama for all of these problem. he has tried his best. i don't think there is much any republican could have done that would have been much different. there is just not a huge amount of economics knows about how to deal with a financial catastrophe like we had in 2008. >> shannon: if that is the case what is the case for electing mitt romney over president obama if you say that president obama has made a...
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the president left out the frequent attack about mr. romney's 47% comments. a cnn opinion research poll taken after the debate shows 67% of registered voters believe mitt romney had a better night. 25% said president obama. a cbs poll says 46% of uncommitted voters said romney had the stronger performance. 22% said it was the president. the headline in this mornings usa today, romney seizes offense on obama's record. romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and talk of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's p
the president left out the frequent attack about mr. romney's 47% comments. a cnn opinion research poll taken after the debate shows 67% of registered voters believe mitt romney had a better night. 25% said president obama. a cbs poll says 46% of uncommitted voters said romney had the stronger performance. 22% said it was the president. the headline in this mornings usa today, romney seizes offense on obama's record. romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and...
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people find it difficult to access mr. romney. this will give an opportunity to show people who he really is shep? >> shepard: carl, a new ad out tonight. i wonder if that gives us a hint of what we might hear in this debate. >> it does. mr. romney has been complaining in the recent weeks that the president often misrepresents his position on abortion, the auto bailout. basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know, well, some parts of the economy are doing okay and that the recovery is underway. here is mitt rom know camera one of those ads where he speaks directly to the people, no big music and pictures of others that sort of apple pie and motherhood stuff. this is mitt romney saying what he thinks. >> too many americans today are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. >> and the follow-up to that the next line in the ad and the next line in the debates will be that the country simply cannot aff
people find it difficult to access mr. romney. this will give an opportunity to show people who he really is shep? >> shepard: carl, a new ad out tonight. i wonder if that gives us a hint of what we might hear in this debate. >> it does. mr. romney has been complaining in the recent weeks that the president often misrepresents his position on abortion, the auto bailout. basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know,...
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for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attacki
for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the...
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mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise....
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romney made them feel more negative than positive toward mr. romney by a 22-point margin. those results match other polling that shows those comments alienated undecided voters. regardless of what you think of the substance of that it statement from mr. romney, it did turn the whole republican pundit class against him, called every candidate in a contested race to distance themselves from the presidential nominee of their party to start campaigning against mitt romney, telling voters, listen, i don't like that guy on that issue either, but vote for me any way even though i'm a republican. whether or not you think the remarks were scandalous, the polling impact of them is now showing up directly at a time when mr. romney's egregiously bad polling numbers seem to be calcifying and when most voters are now starting to vote. an incredibly negative impact for romney and his campaign at a difficult time for them. now on the eve of the first presidential debate, if they were hoping to put that behind them, any hope of getting away from the issue has now been expunged because "the
romney made them feel more negative than positive toward mr. romney by a 22-point margin. those results match other polling that shows those comments alienated undecided voters. regardless of what you think of the substance of that it statement from mr. romney, it did turn the whole republican pundit class against him, called every candidate in a contested race to distance themselves from the presidential nominee of their party to start campaigning against mitt romney, telling voters, listen, i...
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case in point, mr. romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white, up is down, and everything is the way he says it is in the world of mitt romney. like yago, mitt romney delivered those lines in the presence of a black man, but on this occasion the president would not be deceived. he allowed mr. romney to rehearse the full extent of his lie and then just a few hours ago drew our attention to what really happened last night. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts in favor of the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night s
case in point, mr. romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >>...
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mr. romney's put himself in a box and president obama knows it. with 29 days to go, and you can say governor romney is between barack and a hard place. joining me now is an opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor and margorie, democratic strategist. thanks to you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> jonathan, it seems like there's a lot of around mr. romney's policies. >> yeah. absolutely, rev. because we've spent so much time focused on his performance and that's sort of the sugar high from the debate on wednesday but then you start focusing in on what he actually said and there's a lot there. as you said, he's boxed himself in a corner. you know, for instance, on his tax policy, on the $716 billion that he says the president is cutting out of medicare which is also in his running mate's own budget, just done in different ways, yeah, he's boxed himself in a corner and i think a lot of democrats hope and we've seen on the campaign trail since the debate that the president is pushing back on a lot of things that h
mr. romney's put himself in a box and president obama knows it. with 29 days to go, and you can say governor romney is between barack and a hard place. joining me now is an opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor and margorie, democratic strategist. thanks to you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> jonathan, it seems like there's a lot of around mr. romney's policies. >> yeah. absolutely, rev. because we've spent so much time...
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mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean...
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for mr. romney, that was then. now on that, a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift began a moment after this handshake in denver. he was insistent on government regulation, education and health care. >> how would repeal it? >> it's a lengthy discussion, but number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. >> that assurance is misleading, and later on an adviser had to clarify what mr. romney actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, preexisting conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and, therefore, health insurance plans. that's not what most people think of when it comes to preexisting conditions. ironically, the health care law that mitt romney signed in massachusetts and remains in place, it does allow for preexisting conditions whether they have health insurance or not. we will be watching
for mr. romney, that was then. now on that, a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift began a moment after this handshake in denver. he was insistent on government regulation, education and health care. >> how would repeal it? >> it's a lengthy discussion, but number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. >> that assurance is...
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i thought the president held up on mr. romney. mr. romney comes out and tells you he will tax -- not lower taxes on the rich by cutting out deductions. just like the president said, he did not hammer him enough on it. even if you add up all of the deductions and then the defense spending, you are just going further into the hole. >> thank you. that is dave's tweet to us. we also have our facebook page open and our twitter account. you can send us lots of comments and any of these mediums. you can reach us on facebook.com/cspan. this is laurie who is a democrat. >> this is maria. i was calling to say i think romney is running on his ego. what he has been talking about all through this campaign was just taking care of the rich and not try to help the ones down below. there are so many people that need help. when obama bought into office, he already had that debt. it takes time for a person to -- romney should know -- it takes time to settle that big of a debt in more than four years. it will take more for us to get out of the dead that
i thought the president held up on mr. romney. mr. romney comes out and tells you he will tax -- not lower taxes on the rich by cutting out deductions. just like the president said, he did not hammer him enough on it. even if you add up all of the deductions and then the defense spending, you are just going further into the hole. >> thank you. that is dave's tweet to us. we also have our facebook page open and our twitter account. you can send us lots of comments and any of these mediums....
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in mr. romney's view, if you take a look at the unemployment and account for those who have taken themselves out of job-seeking market, it's far worse than today's sub8 number. watch. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today as on the day the president got elected, why our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> and the romney campaign and experts say if you take those who are out of work, those who stop looking for work and those are ho are under employee employed, the real unemployment number as it's called is north of 14%, harris. >> harris: number subject i understand came up on the trail today is that governor romney shifted his position on what he once called his inelegant remark about the 47%. >> that was one of the things that democrats were criticizing president obama for having not brought up in the debate the other night. criticizing mr. romney for his now 5 month old remarks to a closed fundraiser surreptitiously videoed that he sug
in mr. romney's view, if you take a look at the unemployment and account for those who have taken themselves out of job-seeking market, it's far worse than today's sub8 number. watch. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today as on the day the president got elected, why our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> and the romney campaign and experts say if you take those who are out of work, those who stop looking for work and those are...
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both mr. obama and romney will come well prepared for that. it's how they conduct themselves, how they come across to viewers and a lot of that's very, very personal. frankly, you can't really rehearse it. that's what makes the anticipation so high. the expectation game so important, it's the unscripted moment that people are watching for. bill? >> bill: 50 million plus americans watching four years ago. huge audience. >>> 25-year-old who graduated from college earned a law degree and passed the florida bar exam. now fighting to get his law license. the problem was and is, he's an illegal immigrant. he came to the u.s. with his parents at the age of nine on a visitor's visa and when that expired, they never left. now he's hoping to convince the florida supreme court to let him practice law, even though he's undocumented. at a hearing today, the justices appeared skeptical, questioning whether they have the authority to do so since it's against federal law. they also talked about delaying a decision to see if the man gets a work permit under pr
both mr. obama and romney will come well prepared for that. it's how they conduct themselves, how they come across to viewers and a lot of that's very, very personal. frankly, you can't really rehearse it. that's what makes the anticipation so high. the expectation game so important, it's the unscripted moment that people are watching for. bill? >> bill: 50 million plus americans watching four years ago. huge audience. >>> 25-year-old who graduated from college earned a law...
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for mr. romney, that was then. now on that and a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift, you might have noticed, began moments after this handshake at the debate in denver. mr. romney struck centrist sounding positions on government regulation, education and most notably, health care. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. keeping them honest, that assurance is misleading and a short time later, a top campaign adviser had to clarify what his boss actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, pre-existing conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and therefore, health insurance plans. that's not who most people think of when it comes to pre-
for mr. romney, that was then. now on that and a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift, you might have noticed, began moments after this handshake at the debate in denver. mr. romney struck centrist sounding positions on government regulation, education and most notably, health care. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >>...
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we're not seeing that from mr. romney. a few generalities, but i want to see some specifics and i want him to connect each one up with how many jobs it is going to give us. >> you're looking for specifics tonight. what about, though, as you mentioned the economy, what about the battle for the middle class? you have joe biden as -- let me just play this clip in case our viewers haven't seen it, he really stepped in it yesterday when he said this was in charlotte. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class who has been buried the last four years, how -- >> buried the last four years. of course, most of the last four years under the obama administration. so, before we chat, mr. stein, i do need to play this follow-up clip, the vice president, you know, coming back and explaining his comment. this was later in asheville. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and that ryan supported. as bill clinton, all they're suggesting now when asked about thi
we're not seeing that from mr. romney. a few generalities, but i want to see some specifics and i want him to connect each one up with how many jobs it is going to give us. >> you're looking for specifics tonight. what about, though, as you mentioned the economy, what about the battle for the middle class? you have joe biden as -- let me just play this clip in case our viewers haven't seen it, he really stepped in it yesterday when he said this was in charlotte. >> this is deadly...
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mitt romney has an op-ed in the "wall street journal" on foreign policy. mr. romney says allowing iran to build a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. president obama also says the u.s. goal is preventing iran from having an atomic bomb. >>> paul ryan told fox news he and mitt romney want a 20% cut in all income tax rates but ryan failed to provide details. >>> the associated press says if the election were held today, mitt romney would win 23 states, president obama would win the rest capturing 271 electoral votes. >>> hugo chavez, the president of venezuela is facing re-election with voting to be held next sunday, october 7th. chavez told an interviewer that if he were an american, he would vote for president obama over mitt romney. >>> music magazine has ranked the ten best presidents since 1900. franklin d. roosevelt, president during the depression and world war ii was ranked number one. number ten was barack obama. >>> and as the supreme court starts its fall term, justice ruth bader ginsbebegin ginsburg oldest on the supreme court. you probably did not know
mitt romney has an op-ed in the "wall street journal" on foreign policy. mr. romney says allowing iran to build a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. president obama also says the u.s. goal is preventing iran from having an atomic bomb. >>> paul ryan told fox news he and mitt romney want a 20% cut in all income tax rates but ryan failed to provide details. >>> the associated press says if the election were held today, mitt romney would win 23 states, president obama...